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I’ll show interest in recording a new podcast episode when the producers of Homeland show interest in making a new season.


I want to like this show but I really struggle with its #fakefeminism. Are the writers doing it on purpose to mirror reality or are they completely blind? Why are they reifying gender barriers when even these agencies themselves acknowledge the problem and have action plans to address these disparities? I get that it’s entertainment, but really?! Really?!

My interpretation is not that the show is saying that every single woman who has a career in national security cannot also have a family. In fact, it’s impossible for me to say that they are when Carrie is really the only example of a CIA career woman we’ve ever seen on this show. Which is an entirely different matter, but this show is not about women in the CIA. It’s about Carrie.

And from that vantage point, the show is not saying it’s all women. To me, they’re saying it’s Carrie, and this is who Carrie is and this is also how she’s always been. Think about Maggie’s letter in the courtroom. She starts by talking about how Carrie has been since the day she was born. Fearless, with “a mind of her own,” brave, extraordinary, heroic. Whether it was a job in national security or something else, would the outcome be just the same? I think it’s possible it would. 

She has God-given talents that have been nurtured (mostly by Saul) and an insatiable desire and need to… save the world. That’s not every woman. That’s Carrie. The show certainly made the case for Carrie being unique and unlike any other woman tonight, drawing on evidence from seasons past. 

What I actually loved about tonight’s episode was that they allowed Carrie some dignity in this excruciating, heartbreaking decision. When Maggie says to her, “Go do what you were born to do,” there is no shame in it, but just a long-overdue depth of understanding between them. The custody battle didn’t drag on, and Franny wasn’t ripped away from her. She had actual clarity–about her daughter, her actions, her illness, her work, the rest of her life, and how all those things are intertwined. That’s not something she’s had in a very, very long time. Possibly ever. 

Agree. He turned when she said she was going to bring Franny because he knew Yevgeny would be there. 

Making trips to the gym bearable is the highest praise I could ever imagine! 

(2/2)It’s seems so anti feminist and anti Carrie to me. I appreciate how they are making her loss of Quinn so palpable (maybe others disagree but I do see her grief coloring her every move or whatever AFG said). But even though I want him to return (and legit thought that was him texting Saul) now doesn’t seem like the right time. She needs to pull herself out just a little bit for it to feel right. Does anyone else have thoughts?

You know, I don’t actually know. I want Quinn back for Carrie’s sake, because I honestly believe the “don’t know what you’ve got ‘til it’s gone” of it all has really crystallized her feelings for him. 

But what you say really resonates with me. I don’t want Quinn to come riding in on a white horse to save her from the mess she’s created on her own. Carrie needs to handle her own shit. 

We got an ask way back in June presenting a scenario that I am wicked on board with. If you don’t wanna click, essentially somebody’s all set to kill Carrie and a sniper takes Carrie’s would-be killer out from super far away. That sniper? Peter fucking Quinn.

That’s fair and true. She has changed, in some part, since becoming a mother. And we can’t discount that. I guess my overall point is, is it good enough? I hate writing those words because it sucks to think that it’s not. But it might not be. 

It was! 

I just finished the second season of Jessica Jones this weekend and there’s an important octopus reference in it so that was what I thought of when I saw the tattoos (which I was surprisingly, for myself, very attracted to!). 

As for Ivan, I think he was going to tell Saul that he was right about Yevgeny and where he was…? Maybe, “watch out, old man. This dude doesn’t play by your rules.” 

Max can do no wrong and we must protect him at all costs. 

I’m not sure it’s that you’re “just not seeing it” – we all view the show in different ways so just because I found a new depth to her character doesn’t mean everyone else will. Especially because I am the Queen of Homeland-based Rationalizations (or “delusions,” as they are sometimes referenced). 

I think they tackled some of that complexity and depth last year though. She’s divorced, a Gold Star mother. She’s been fighting for respect her entire career, it seems. What we saw last year was a staunch position against military intervention and a continuation of American foreign policy in the Middle East. 

We’re still kinda seeing that but she’s been cut off at the knees in some respects (that is, many of her arguments seem invalid) because her response to an attempt on her life was to detain a bunch of people and not rest until they were all served justice. In other words, having this kind of non-interventionist stance seems hypocritical when she irrationally rushed to jail a bunch of her so-called “enemies” and then called for McClendon to be executed. 

In some ways that is a huge overreaction but so is a goddamn assassination attempt on a president-elect for… what, exactly? Part of what was so absurd about the end of season six was that the assassination attempt really came out of nowhere. All she wanted to do was like… re-evaluate what America was doing in the Middle East and a bunch of white dudes freaked out and decided to kill her??? What in the actual fresh hell, Homeland. I might argue if Elizabeth Keane was Eric Keane none of that would have happened. (And I hardly think the writers’ point was that it was all a huge overreaction because she was a woman but when you look at the story now, with the context that she turned around and did the exact same thing, it’s somewhat of a comment on just how fucking crazy America is right now, driven by paranoia and an “us versus them” mentality.)

The thing is, there is no “us” with Keane. It’s just her. She is alone, fundamentally and at her core. And while that means she doesn’t have a lot of friends to protect her, it also means she’s beholden to nobody. No man is an island, but this woman sure is. 

C and D sitting on the curb is a total parallel to C and Q sitting on the step with coffee after Javadi kills his ex (I’m not even going to ask for a gif set bc I actually don’t want to see it). That, plus him getting her out of jail is setting him up to be C’s protector in Q’s absence. I just feels so cheap and contrived to me. The CQ dynamic took years to form, and the writers are trying to replace and recreate that in 2 weeks. (Last thought-thanks for indulging) But, I do love the therapist scenes. I can’t help but think that Carrie saying that she’s not hearing voices or hallucinating means that she will (will it be Quinn?!) or, my favorite theory – that when Quinn finally appears (saves the day?) we will know it’s really him bc she’s already established that she’s not hallucinating. Quinnspiracy 4eva!

Ok, there’s a lot here! 

1) How many times will Saul be captured or tricked by a terrorist? 

2) Re: Dante and Carrie. I’ve read a few recaps of the episode that have the same inkling as you–that they’re setting up a romance between them–and for some reason I just don’t see it. Like, in my gut it doesn’t feel like that’s what happening. Sometimes the simplest explanation is the best, but I can’t help but think it’s either a massive fakeout and he’s a mole OR it’s really just a platonic friendship. And we know that Carrie and Quinn were much more than that. The truth is that Carrie needs an ally, and Dante may be hers. 

3) I also loved the therapist scene (although… give that psychiatrist a medal please. Manic Carrie is so not the first thing I want to deal with in the morning. The entire situation reminds me of Gretchen Cutler verbally abusing her shrink on You’re the Worst.