It’s just England, y’all. I’m still here. Granted, there were a few weeks there where I was preparing for an across-the-ocean move and all that entailed but I’m all settled now, so we can go back to talking about ….. nothing. Oh, about how season 8 doesn’t exist!
Also! This blog benefits greatly from wonderful contributors who are not me or Ashley – Julie, Gail, Frangi, and Angela. I appreciate them so much and all the different viewpoints they offer and work they do.
As you can see the media is no longer available. I think they must be on the S3 DVDs but I donated all my Homeland DVDs to charity when I moved so I have no actual way of confirming that theory and my memory is not serving me in this particular moment.
(The video literally only shows like 4 seconds of the alternate take. It’s not like the alt kiss where we got a full scene.)
Anonymous #2: What do you mean “that alt take of the carrie/quinn scene in gif 5 still fucks me up to!!!! this!!!! day!!!!!”
I don’t know how else to describe it, it just fucks me up! For one, it’s a better take. Carrie seems more vulnerable, the emotion seems more spontaneous, like Claire didn’t intend for her voice to break or to make those facial expressions. By contrast, the aired take seems more controlled and measured, which is not a bad thing, just way less likely to still have an impact on me 5+ years later.
(The scene in question is the scene in the parking lot where Carrie and Quinn talk about her offer to be the Istanbul station chief. The moment in question is when Carrie says she can’t be a mother for reasons X, Y, and Z.)
So, I stand by everything I can remember saying about the quinnspiracy, but I don’t really think about it anymore. I haven’t watched Homeland since the season 7 finale, and at this point I do not plan to watch season 8.
But I still like talking about it sometimes. Just because I don’t know what’s going on doesn’t mean I can’t speak authoritatively about it.
While I still maintain that season 8 does not exist, I have to say Lover has more Carrie Mathison songs on it than you might think. For example:
“I Forgot that You Existed”: literally Carrie @ Saul at the end of season 7
“It’s Nice to Have a Friend”: friend, as in, singular. This is Carrie’s ode to her one friend on earth, Max.
“The Archer”: this song is Carrie Mathison af. “I wake in the night, I pace like a ghost / The room is on fire, invisible smoke / And all of my heroes die all alone” ???? Come on.
“Miss Americana and the Heartbreak Prince”: this is the most Reputation-sounding track on the album, it’s got a real Carrie vibe to it
“Soon You’ll Get Better”: “I know delusion when I see it in the mirror / You like the nicer nurses, you make the best of a bad deal / I just pretend it isn’t real”
“ME!”: it sounds like it should be the credits song on a non-Pixar animated movie so the sound is obviously not really Carrie BUT Taylor’s high maintenance handful-ness is very similar to Carrie’s and that’s what this entire song is about.
Sara: Carrie having a “romance” with the man who imprisoned her for 7 months is never “off the table” (because Homeland) but y’all:
Julie: Thinking of parallels to season 1 it’s pretty possible they will be sexually involved… I mean there can be big dependencies of victim and kidnapper, but wasn’t there some kind of sexual tension right from the start?
Ashley: I at this point do not plan to watch season 8, but Y’ALL NO.
Gail: It’s Homeland, so the answer is always whatever will make Carrie’s life more complicated. So romance, no. Hot and sweaty spy sex, blurring boundaries and exploiting her medical condition? Highly likely.