Category: group answer

Ashley: what 

Sara

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Gail: Yikes.

Julie: 

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Sara: Elisabeth Moss

Julie: You’re asking the wrong person… Current movies are really not my business, I need the story to be a series. 😉How bout Anna Friel? She’s is not that bad. 😎

Ashley: Amy Schumer and Keri Russell come to mind, which is kind of funny, because I have spent actual money going to see BOTH of them on Broadway in the past couple of years. 

Gail:  I agree with Sara – Elisabeth Moss would be a HARD pass for me.

Sara: the series will end* with Carrie dead after having done something ridiculously dangerous for Saul ~in the name of patriotism. In the final scene, Saul removes his eyeglasses, looks somberly off into middle distance, and whispers gruffly to himself, “it wasn’t worth it.” 

In other words: 

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Julie: The season will show some similarities to previous seasons, mostly 1 – 3. We will question Carrie’s mental state as her unwanted stay in Russian was no wellness holiday.

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The talks with the Taliban won’t end as presumed (guess who’s fingers were involved)…

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and surprise! Saul is captured again.

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In the end Carrie will be sentenced to death as a traitor (in reality she’s the hero). Does this sound familiar?

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Oh, and Dar Adal is back.

Me to myself:

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Ashley: what s8

Ashley: ^^^ u can quote me

Gail: I think Season 8 will be about how Carrie comes back full circle to the premise of the show, finding herself in an eerily similar situation to Brody: back from capture, dealing with the effects of her torture/captivity, dealing with the effects that had on her emotionally – which will obviously be complicated by her illness, and questions of her loyalty and trust worthiness.  Over the last few seasons we have seen her feel betrayed by the country she has served so faithfully and lost virtually everything near and dear to her.  I feel like Season 8 will be her last mission (I’m 50/50 if she dies or rides off into the sunset/mental institution).  Homeland loves to show both sides of a story – so I think she’ll find herself crossing enemy lines to work with former enemies (read: Haqqani) to help the greater good, probably to her demise.  And as always, I’m hoping for a Javadi cameo – AND since NBC’s The Enemy Within was cancelled (such a shame, I really liked it) – I’m REALLY hopeful I’ll get a Khan cameo from my favorite, Raza Jeffrey too!

Sara: Carrie having a “romance” with the man who imprisoned her for 7 months is never “off the table” (because Homeland) but y’all:

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Julie: Thinking of parallels to season 1 it’s pretty possible they will be sexually involved…  I mean there can be big dependencies of victim and kidnapper, but wasn’t there some kind of sexual tension right from the start?

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Ashley: I at this point do not plan to watch season 8, but Y’ALL NO.

Gail: It’s Homeland, so the answer is always whatever will make Carrie’s life more complicated. So romance, no. Hot and sweaty spy sex, blurring boundaries and exploiting her medical condition? Highly likely.

1. did you feel the same emotion about the show after season 6? 2. what was the purpose of the max scene?? 3. creaking of the floor? 4.when dar asks Saul about checking in on a fellow at GW, do any of you think there is any chance the fellow could be Quinn?

Sara: I can sense you’re looking for some kind of validation from those of us here, for someone to tell you that Quinn is alive. That there must be some sort of reason behind the sloppy storytelling. There’s no reason. It was just bad storytelling. The character is dead. I apologize for being blunt, but we’ve literally been fielding questions about this, about the GW professor, about the creak in the stair, about Quinn’s “safe place,” for two years now. 

I encourage you to explore the April 2017 archives or maybe the FAQ where we give answers to common S6 questions. The headspace reflected in the answers there is a lot more similar to yours right now than anyone’s around here. 

To answer your questions:

1. Yes, I felt season six was a pile of trash. From start to finish.  

2. The purpose of the Max scene was to show that the media tried to spin a narrative about Quinn being a “super hero” that stripped him of his elemental humanity and also SURPRISE! Quinn carried around a picture of Carrie for years, which is enough to break Carrie once and for all, after Saul says she’s not acknowledged his death. 

3. Carrie lived in an old ass Brookyln brownstone and she felt figuratively haunted by Quinn’s memory there. In other words: ~symbolism, not a sign.

4. Quinn is not David Exley. Quinn is dead. 

Also, not that you asked, but season seven is about 854,000 times better than season six and a not-insignificant part of that IMO is the lifted weight from the writers’ shoulders of not having to write for a character they really didn’t know how to write or give a shit about. But different strokes and all that jazz. 

Gail:  Here is a link to an article published by TVLine in the fall of 2017 about Rupert Friend not returning and LLG confirming Quinn’s death. Many of us were devastated when it happened, so we get where you are coming from. In addition to what Sara wrote above, you should also check out the #quinnspiracy2k17 tag. Now that I’m almost 2 years post the season 6 finale debacle, watched season 7, read every interview done about the show, I have to co-sign Sara’s answer above. She’s giving it to you straight and it’s tough to swallow, but I think it’s the truth. In my fiction, Quinn is alive and secretly living just off camera, keeping watch over Carrie and Franny. But that’s fic–I don’t see any scenario where he is back on the actual show unless in a flashback capacity.

Frangi: I was hoping for Quinn’s return from the death for a long time after season 6, but after season 7 I don’t see any way how this should play out. Personally I cannot imagine any satisfying storyline how to make this happen in a meaningful, credible way which would also do the character any justice. It’s a truth which took me a long time to accept so I feel where you are coming from but I think Sara outlined the many reasons why Quinn won’t come back and why the writers took the story elsewhere perfectly.

1. did you feel the same emotion about the show after season 6? 2. what was the purpose of the max scene?? 3. creaking of the floor? 4.when dar asks Saul about checking in on a fellow at GW, do any of you think there is any chance the fellow could be Quinn?

Sara: I can sense you’re looking for some kind of validation from those of us here, for someone to tell you that Quinn is alive. That there must be some sort of reason behind the sloppy storytelling. There’s no reason. It was just bad storytelling. The character is dead. I apologize for being blunt, but we’ve literally been fielding questions about this, about the GW professor, about the creak in the stair, about Quinn’s “safe place,” for two years now. 

I encourage you to explore the April 2017 archives or maybe the FAQ where we give answers to common S6 questions. The headspace reflected in the answers there is a lot more similar to yours right now than anyone’s around here. 

To answer your questions:

1. Yes, I felt season six was a pile of trash. From start to finish.  

2. The purpose of the Max scene was to show that the media tried to spin a narrative about Quinn being a “super hero” that stripped him of his elemental humanity and also SURPRISE! Quinn carried around a picture of Carrie for years, which is enough to break Carrie once and for all, after Saul says she’s not acknowledged his death. 

3. Carrie lived in an old ass Brookyln brownstone and she felt figuratively haunted by Quinn’s memory there. In other words: ~symbolism, not a sign.

4. Quinn is not David Exley. Quinn is dead. 

Also, not that you asked, but season seven is about 854,000 times better than season six and a not-insignificant part of that IMO is the lifted weight from the writers’ shoulders of not having to write for a character they really didn’t know how to write or give a shit about. But different strokes and all that jazz. 

Gail:  Here is a link to an article published by TVLine in the fall of 2017 about Rupert Friend not returning and LLG confirming Quinn’s death. Many of us were devastated when it happened, so we get where you are coming from. In addition to what Sara wrote above, you should also check out the #quinnspiracy2k17 tag. Now that I’m almost 2 years post the season 6 finale debacle, watched season 7, read every interview done about the show, I have to co-sign Sara’s answer above. She’s giving it to you straight and it’s tough to swallow, but I think it’s the truth. In my fiction, Quinn is alive and secretly living just off camera, keeping watch over Carrie and Franny. But that’s fic–I don’t see any scenario where he is back on the actual show unless in a flashback capacity.

Frangi: I was hoping for Quinn’s return from the death for a long time after season 6, but after season 7 I don’t see any way how this should play out. Personally I cannot imagine any satisfying storyline how to make this happen in a meaningful, credible way which would also do the character any justice. It’s a truth which took me a long time to accept so I feel where you are coming from but I think Sara outlined the many reasons why Quinn won’t come back and why the writers took the story elsewhere perfectly.

Sara: I mean, I literally only care about Carrie. I hope they have some sort of resolution in the ups and downs of her relationship with Saul. Carrie getting a star on the wall would make me really angry – not because it would make me angry if she died (though if she died in particular ways I’d probably be angry), but I just really dislike that potential ending. 

Ashley: I don’t think this series is going to leave me feeling satisfied in any way, shape, or form. I can’t imagine it otherwise. I anticipate turning off the television and sitting in a dark room for a while, contemplating the end of it. I likewise can’t think of anything that will make me angry. I feel like I have reached a healthy place with this show.

…but ask me again after season 8 starts.

Julie: Somehow I’m fine with the ending of the series and I can’t imagine anything right now that would get me really angry. However, I’m expecting an unsolved end, with no winner, and with one or more deaths of major or beloved characters. Homeland is not known to resolve ambiguous allusions they’ve made in the past, but I’d love to keep trust in Carrie until the end and not question her.

Gail: I’m one of the rare people that actually understood the ending of LOST, so I’m hoping I will have that same clarity with the ending of Homeland. I am not approaching season 8 with a list of things I’d like resolved – I don’t think Homeland has ever worked like that. I think the questions that will need to be answered are very similar to those posed in Season 1. How could a patriot see the atrocities of war first hand, lose everything, watch the government they fight for do unspeakable things and have that not break them? Was it all worth it in the end? Homeland is never a zero sum game – so my hope is that whatever the final answers are – Carrie ends the series on her own terms. I also wouldn’t mind a Khan cameo…and that Tasneem gets whats coming to her. 

Angela: Well, I don’t expect jack-shit to get resolved, and honestly, I know I will feel deep relief at the end, regardless of what happens during the season. I’ll just be hanging on for the ride, so at this point, nothing will make me angry. I just hope it makes for good television.

Sara: Carrie lives and Saul dies. 

Ashley: A Newhart-style finale where Angela Chase wakes up from a terrible dream.

Sara: Ok now I want Ashley’s ending. Just de-age Claire 30 years with 3 half ponys!!!!

Frangi: Quinn comes back. Carrie finds balance between private life and professional calling.

Julie: Carrie survives the end of the show.

Gail: A finale that shows Carrie living happily ever after. Also, Ashley’s ending.

Ashley: Dana Brody! She’s all grown up now and I want to know how she’s doing. 

Sara: Definitely Lockhart. I wouldn’t mind checking in on Dana and Jessica in an exclusive web series or something. To see them on the show would be too weird. Also Jonas because the reaction would be amazing. #saragonnatroll


Julie
: Revenge for Fara! A confrontation with Haqqani and Carrie.

Gail: In order of appearance preference: Lockhart, Javadi, Khan (I know, I know–the heart wants what it wants people!), Haqqani, Virgil and absolutely every single other character before any member of the Brody family.

Sara: Great, so we have two votes for Jonas!!

Frangi: Javadi. Haqqani. Lockart. Virgil. Martha. Mira. John jr telling us his father is alive on an Island.

Frangi: There’s no good way to cover a 6-months-pregnant bump for a big night out and there’s nothing more uncomfortable than having to find a dress that allows you and the baby space but doesn’t look like a bin bag or candy box and doesn’t make you collapse from heat. So no pregnant Claire shaming here. 

Sara: If you’re six months pregnant and cool with rocking some silvery pink leopard Valentino, fuckin’ go for it, sister! (I try to read Go Fug Yourself and Tom & Lorenzo after awards like these and was surprised that they were both kinda into it? Go figure!) 

Sara (updated this morning): I’m way more interested in talking about what she wore to the Public Theater Gala last night…. I think this is a red jumpsuit under that black overcoat. She is typically a goob and Hugh and his wayward curl are looking at her like “you are such a goob.” 

Ashley: God I want just a series of Claire’s silly outfits.

Sara: Remind me in a week.