do say that time heals all wounds. They also say that hindsight is 20/20.
I hope you don’t mind if I use your ask as a jumping-off point to articulate my thoughts re: fandom upset.
back, it’s kind of easy to see how it all went off the rails.
all, Quinn should have died in the season five finale. Like, Quinn got exposed
to sarin gas in 5×09, and it was all downhill for him from there. He was in a
coma, they woke him up, he suffered a brain hemorrhage, and from there he
basically had no chance of recovery. They read the letter. Carrie seemed to be
letting him go, and even like she was prepared to help him along with it. I
remember, after 5.12 aired, I was pretty shocked and miserable and generally
disbelieving. And I had nobody to talk to, because I didn’t know you guys yet.
messaged me on Christmas night to talk about the finale, which he had just caught
Friend: Merry Christmas. I saw the finale.
Though I think I need to see it again to reassess what happened. I like how
Quinn’s story ended (assuming it ended). Not so much Allison’s, though I
wouldn’t mind seeing Ivan again.
Ashley: I’m 99% sure that we will see
Quinn again. I liked Allison’s ending. It was very reminiscent of The
Ashley: Quinn’s ending made no sense
to me, but it does make sense that we’d be on opposite sides of this.
Friend: I kinda hope he’s not back. I
feel like they’ve gone as far as they can go with regard to abusing him.
The finale just pissed me off. It was a stupid cliffhanger, because it’s not
sustainable. Like, if Quinn is dead, then what’s the point?
I guess I saw it as them plainly stating that he is dead. She took off the oxygen
monitor because what’s the point anymore, and just wanted a moment alone with
I’ll be annoyed if that’s not what they’re doing.
She took off the oxygen monitor so that she could put him out of his misery
without arousing suspicion, but he wasn’t even on life support.
Yeah, that’s why I don’t think it was that. I don’t think she was speeding
things along so much as just silencing the room.
had a million billion thoughts about the 5.12 finale, my favorite theory being
one that Dar Adal was just fucking with Carrie, but my friend’s comments really
exemplify why people used to pay him to watch, review, and analyze shit. He was
completely right. That ending for Quinn would have been much more respectful
than what we ultimately ended up with. I think it would have been a fine
contrast with Brody’s death, and I think it would have made for a tremendously
interesting character arc for Carrie in season six.
the aftermath of 5.12, though, I remember how upset people were. I lurked
around the fandom until obviously I stopped lurking, but the impression I got (particularly in the carrie-quinn livejournal community) was irrepressible and universal sadness over his death. I was upset about it,
but not really that upset, because —
as you can see in the conversation above — I didn’t really get it. I also felt
like there were a lot of parallels to Jack Bauer in 24, and Jack had come back from
death a couple of times with few ill effects. Of course, this show is not 24.
But when Howard Gordon announced that Quinn would be returning, I felt very
the more involved I got with the Homeland fandom, the more it felt like everybody felt the same way as I did.
People wondered why we had ever believed
that Quinn had died, and I was just, like… mass hysteria? And I think that’s
true, but I don’t think the fandom ever recovered from that. It just became an
echo chamber. Quinn was our Tinkerbell and if we clapped hard enough, we could
our indignant cries after 5.12 really were a factor in Quinn’s return. But I
don’t think so. I don’t think we ever had the influence we thought we did.
I don’t know. I really don’t. I can’t understand the point of bringing him back
just to torment him for eleven-and-a-half more episodes and then kill him.
the part that’s upsetting, I think. I know a lot of people who quit watching
Homeland after season six, but who probably would have carried on with the show
if Quinn had died at the end of season five. His death at the end of season six
was a betrayal in a way that his death at the end of season five wouldn’t have
been. They gave fans room to exhale and an entire year to speculate on Quinn’s
future and what it might mean for Carrie and the show. By the time they put him
out of his misery for real, it was too late.
it’s been eighteen entire months since 6.12, and that’s the other thing. Time.
the great thing about television is that you really can pretend the show ends
before it gets to a point that makes you unhappy. For me, Buffy ends at the end
of season five (Once More With Feeling is Willow’s fever dream). Angel ends at
the end of season three. (I know that those are both BAD PLACES to end either
series, but what can I say, I love a miserable ending… I’m sure that Homeland
8.12 will be everything my masochistic soul desires.)
keep on keeping on with your happy(-ish) ending. The show is what it is, and
will be what it will be. But thankfully the show is ending soon and, anyway,
none of us (except for Sara) MUST watch.